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Live from Washington, this is BBC News. The US and Iran describe a first round of talks over Tehran's nuclear programme as constructive. It's the highest-level meeting between the two nations since 2018.

来自华盛顿的现场报道，这是 BBC 新闻。美国和伊朗表示，关于德黑兰核计划的首次会谈具有建设性。这是自 2018 年以来两国最高级别的会晤。

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President Trump rose back on some of his tariff plans, exempting smartphones and computers, including those from China. And the UK government rushes emergency legislation through Parliament aimed at saving British steel and thousands of jobs. I'm Helena Humphrey.

特朗普总统取消了一些关税计划，免除包括来自中国的智能手机和电脑在内的产品。英国政府紧急立法，旨在拯救英国钢铁行业和数千个工作岗位。我是 Helena Humphrey。

Good to have you with us. The US and Iran have described its talks over Tehran's nuclear programme as constructive, after delegates from both countries gathered in Oman earlier today. Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Rouchi says that Iran wants a fair and equal deal.

很高兴你们能收听我们的节目。美国和伊朗表示，今天早些时候在阿曼举行的关于德黑兰核计划的会谈具有建设性。伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·鲁希表示，伊朗希望得到公平和平等的协议。

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The White House described the talks as a positive step forward. The two parties did not meet face-to-face during the two-and-a-half-hour meeting, but agreed to further talks next Saturday. Discussions are the highest level since President Trump pulled out of an international nuclear agreement with Iran seven years ago during his first term in office.

白宫将这次会谈描述为向前迈出的积极一步。在两个半小时的会议中，双方没有面对面交流，但同意下周六进行进一步的会谈。这是自特朗普总统在其第一个任期内七年前退出与伊朗的国际核协议以来最高级别的讨论。

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Iran's Foreign Minister said the talks took place in a constructive and mutually respectful atmosphere. During the meeting, I think we came very close to a basis for negotiations. At our next meeting, if we can finalise that basis, we'll have gone a large part of the way.

伊朗外交部长表示，会谈在建设性和相互尊重的气氛中进行。在会议期间，我认为我们非常接近达成谈判的基础。如果我们能在下次会议上确定这个基础，我们就已经走了很大一部分的路。

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Parham Ghabadi, a senior reporter with BBC Persian, has more on those talks. The Iranian delegation was headed by Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Rouchi, who seemed to be really upbeat about the negotiations. He said they were constructive and in a professional atmosphere.

BBC 波斯语的高级记者 Parham Ghabadi 对这些会谈有更多报道。伊朗代表团由伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·鲁希领导，他对谈判显得非常乐观。他说这些会谈是有建设性的，并且是在专业的气氛中进行的。

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He said the Omani foreign minister acted as go-between the two delegations, exchanging messages, and the whole talks lasted for two-and-a-half hours. Now, that is one of the issues, one of the core disagreements between the Iranian and the American delegations, because Iranians are saying the talks were held indirectly, whereas the Americans have been saying these are direct talks between the delegations. However, the Iranian foreign minister said that both delegations met briefly after the talks, and this is what he called a courteous, diplomatic gesture, and they talked for a few minutes face-to-face.

他表示，阿曼外交部长充当了两个代表团之间的中间人，交换信息，整个会谈持续了两个半小时。现在，这是伊朗和美国代表团之间的一个问题，一个核心分歧，因为伊朗方面表示会谈是间接举行的，而美国方面一直表示这些是代表团之间的直接会谈。然而，伊朗外交部长表示，两个代表团在会谈后短暂会面，这就是他所称的礼貌、外交姿态，他们面对面交谈了几分钟。

But something interesting that happened was that the Iranian media, including the Iranian state TV, preemptively dismissed Donald Trump's future remarks, saying that Donald Trump may speak about the content of these negotiations later on today. However, what he says is untrue, and the reason for that is because he wants to influence the public opinion. We don't know why Iranians are saying that.

但发生的一件有趣的事情是，包括伊朗国家电视台在内的伊朗媒体先发制人地驳斥了唐纳德·特朗普的未来言论，称唐纳德·特朗普可能会在今天晚些时候谈论这些谈判的内容。然而，他所说的是不真实的，原因是他想影响公众舆论。我们不知道伊朗人为什么这么说。

Is it because Iranians have made some concessions during the talks, and they fear that Donald Trump might reveal them? Or is it because the talks were held partly directly or indirectly, and Iranians do not want to acknowledge that publicly because hardliners in Iran are really putting a lot of pressure on Iranian delegations not to meet directly with the American delegation. Joining me live now is Richard Nephew, former Deputy Special Envoy for Iran under the Biden administration and former Director for Iran at the National Security Council. Welcome to you, very good to have you with us on the programme.

是因为伊朗人在谈判期间做出了一些让步，他们担心唐纳德·特朗普可能会揭露这些让步吗？还是因为谈判部分是直接或间接进行的，而伊朗人不想公开承认这一点，因为伊朗的强硬派确实给伊朗代表团施加了很大压力，不让他们直接与美国代表团会面。现在，我连线的是理查德·内夫，他曾是拜登政府时期的伊朗问题副特使，也是国家安全委员会前伊朗事务主任。欢迎你，很高兴你能参加我们的节目。

These are the first talks between the US and Iran in a long time, we're talking seven years here. How much realistically do you think can come out of these talks? Well, I think this initial round has achieved basically what it could achieve, which is agreement that there will be additional rounds, that there will be additional conversations, and that there is a basis to continue talking. I don't think we should go overboard as to how far they got or we're going to get.

这是美国和伊朗很长时间以来的首次谈判，我们说的可是七年时间。你认为从这些谈判中实际能取得多少成果呢？嗯，我认为这第一轮谈判基本上已经取得了它所能取得的成果，即各方同意将举行更多轮谈判，会有更多对话，而且有继续谈判的基础。我觉得我们不应该对他们已经取得或将会取得的进展过于夸大。

The question now is how much of a process has been established. And were we to see both sides come to the table over the nitty gritty, the nuts and bolts of any kind of deal, the big question would be what kind of agreement would either side accept? I mean, do you think, for example, that Washington would be prepared to give sanctions relief? I think so. And I certainly think that President Trump would be prepared to do so.

现在的问题是已经建立了多少流程。如果我们看到双方就交易的细枝末节、任何交易的 nuts and bolts 坐到谈判桌前，最大的问题将是双方能够接受什么样的协议？我是说，你认为华盛顿会准备解除制裁吗？我认为会的。我确实认为特朗普总统会这样做。

I think on the US side, though, there are a lot of really important questions about how far the nuclear programme would have to be pulled back in order for any kind of concessions on sanctions to even be considered, let alone some of the other provisions that might be asked for by the Iranians. Yeah. And what about those concessions from Tehran, for example? Do you see them saying yes to completely suspending uranium enrichment? No.

不过，我认为在美国方面，有很多关于核计划需要倒退到什么程度，任何制裁让步才会被考虑，更不用说伊朗人可能会要求的一些其他规定了。是的。那么，关于德黑兰方面的让步呢？例如，你认为他们会同意完全暂停铀浓缩吗？不会。

And I think a lot of the talk recently has been about things as extreme as the Libya option, which just for your viewers, the shorthand is the complete elimination of a nuclear fuel cycle. That's something Iran has been rejecting since Libya gave up its nuclear programme in 2003. So it's going to have to be something less than that if the Iranians are going to agree to it as part of a deal.

我认为最近很多讨论都涉及像利比亚方案这样极端的内容，给观众们简单解释一下，这指的是彻底取消核燃料循环。自 2003 年利比亚放弃其核计划以来，伊朗就一直拒绝这一点。所以，如果伊朗要同意将其作为协议的一部分，方案的力度就得比这小一些。

And of course, all of that is imagining, for example, a smoothish process between Tehran and Washington. If we don't see that, if you take a listen to some of the comments from Donald Trump, he has said on several occasions, he's prepared to use military force if there's no deal. What do you make of that? Do you see that as a credible option? I do.

当然，所有这些都假定，比如说，德黑兰和华盛顿之间的过程会比较顺利。如果不是这样，要是你听听唐纳德·特朗普的一些言论，他曾多次表示，如果达不成协议，他准备动用军事力量。你怎么看这件事？你觉得这是一个可信的选项吗？我觉得是。

And I think part of the reason why is the Iranian nuclear programme has advanced significantly since Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the agreement back in 2018. And they now really do sit at the precipice of being able to have nuclear weapons. That's something that every U.S. administration has said it would oppose going back 30 years.

我认为部分原因在于，自 2018 年唐纳德·特朗普让美国退出该协议以来，伊朗核计划有了显著推进。他们现在真的已处于能够拥有核武器的边缘。这是 30 年来每一届美国政府都表示会反对的事情。

So the idea that the United States would use military force, I think that has to be seen as tremendously credible, but also the fact that the United States doesn't want to do that. And I think that's where this process is so important and how these demands that will be coming out of both the United States and Iran can be mutually agreed to. Well, if the U.S. perhaps doesn't want to do that, do you see another party perhaps being willing to engage Israel, for example? Yeah, I think the Israelis have been pretty clear that they'd be prepared to use military force.

所以美国会使用军事力量的想法，我认为必须被视为极其可信的，但同时美国也不想这样做。我认为这就是这个进程如此重要的地方，以及美国和伊朗即将提出的这些要求如何能够相互达成一致。嗯，如果美国也许不想这样做，你认为另一个方也许愿意与以色列接触，例如？是的，我认为以色列已经非常清楚他们准备使用军事力量。

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Certainly, they've demonstrated that with the attacks that they made against Iran last year. And I think they've demonstrated as well that they are prepared to act to defend themselves. The real question is how far the Israeli attacks could go, whether or not they could do significant enough damage to the Iranian nuclear programme to prevent it from being rebuilt very quickly and producing weapons.

当然，他们去年对伊朗的袭击已经表明了这一点。我认为他们也已经表明他们准备采取行动来保卫自己。真正的问题是以色列的袭击能走多远，他们是否能够对伊朗的核计划造成足够大的破坏，以防止其很快重建并生产武器。

I think this is part of the reason why everyone essentially comes back to Washington, because the United States is the only power that is both able and willing to eliminate the Iranian nuclear programme to a significant degree. And even the United States can't eliminate it forever, so long as the Iranians have the capacity, the knowledge to be able to rebuild it. Richard, I just wonder, this is an incredibly delicate process.

我认为这在一定程度上解释了为什么大家最终都会回到华盛顿协商，因为美国是唯一有能力且愿意在很大程度上消除伊朗核计划的大国。而且，只要伊朗具备重建核计划的能力和知识，哪怕是美国也无法永远消除该计划。理查德，我很好奇，这是一个极其微妙的过程。

Do you think that there is any risk here that this could backfire and actually incentivise Tehran's operations when it comes to nuclear capabilities, particularly when you've seen allied groups in the region weakened? Yeah, absolutely. Look, I think the Iranians at this point, they are a decision away from being able to pursue nuclear weapons. There's no technical limitation at this point on their ability to do so.

你认为这样做是否存在风险，即可能适得其反，实际上刺激德黑兰在核能力方面的行动，尤其是在该地区的盟友组织已经被削弱的情况下？是的，绝对有风险。听着，我认为就目前而言，伊朗距离发展核武器仅一步之遥。目前，他们在技术上完全有能力这么做，没有任何限制。

And I think they look at their strategic environment and see themselves as profoundly vulnerable and at a high degree of risk, including to regime change. Now, Donald Trump has said he doesn't want to change the government in Iran, but there are people around Donald Trump who've said that they do. And so I think one of the questions that the Iranians are going to be asking themselves is how credible they see the possibility of a deal, whether or not a deal could stick and whether or not the United States could rein in the Israelis and others who may decide to reject a deal.

而且我认为，他们审视自身的战略环境，会觉得自己极其脆弱，面临高度风险，包括政权更迭的风险。唐纳德·特朗普曾表示他不想改变伊朗政府，但特朗普身边有人称他们想改变。所以我认为伊朗人会思考的一个问题是，他们认为达成协议的可能性有多可信，协议能否持续，以及美国能否约束以色列等可能决定拒绝协议的国家。

And these are all questions that the Iranians have got to be asking themselves. Really important questions to raise there from Richard Nephew, former Deputy Special Envoy for Iran under the Biden administration. Thanks for being with us, Richard.

而这些都是伊朗人必须要思考的问题。拜登政府时期的前伊朗问题副特使理查德·内普 hew 提出的这些问题非常重要。感谢你与我们连线，理查德。

Thank you. The Trump administration is exempting smartphones and other electronic devices from recently imposed global tariffs, including unprecedentedly high taxes on Chinese imports. It's the U.S.'s first major concession to Beijing in their escalating trade war.

谢谢。特朗普政府将智能手机和其他电子设备排除在近期加征的全球关税之外，其中包括对中国进口商品前所未有的高额税收。这是美国在不断升级的贸易战中首次对中国做出的重大让步。

Well, computers and semiconductors are also exempt from tariffs, and many U.S. tech companies like Apple and Dell make their products in China. And imposing tariffs on those products would have driven up costs for U.S. consumers. The White House says that the exemption is a temporary reprieve to give tech firms time to move their operations to the United States.

嗯，计算机和半导体也免征关税，许多美国科技公司，如苹果和戴尔，在中国生产产品。对这些产品征收关税会推高美国消费者的成本。白宫表示，此次豁免是一项临时缓期措施，以便科技公司有时间将业务转移到美国。

It pointed to investment in U.S. manufacturing by Apple, Nvidia and TSMC. Well, Mr. Trump's press secretary Caroline Leavitt said, these companies are hustling to onshore their manufacturing in the United States as soon as possible. And not all of Mr. Trump's tariffs on these goods from China are going away.

它提到了苹果、英伟达和台积电在美国制造业的投资。嗯，特朗普的新闻秘书卡罗琳·莱维特表示，这些公司正在尽快将其制造业转移到美国境内。而且特朗普对这些来自中国的商品所征收的关税并非全部取消。

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While the exemption strikes out a 125% tariff, smartphones imported from China are still subject to a 20% levy, which was earlier imposed against China for its alleged role in the U.S.'s fentanyl epidemic. Well, our North America tech correspondent, Lily Jamali, is following the story from San Francisco. Lily, just talk us through exactly what is now struck from these tariffs.

虽然此次豁免取消了 125%的关税，但从中国进口的智能手机仍需缴纳 20%的税款，这一税款早些时候因中国在美国芬太尼危机中被指扮演的角色而对中国征收。嗯，我们的北美科技记者莉莉·贾马利正在旧金山追踪报道此事。莉莉，请给我们详细讲讲现在这些关税中具体取消了哪些。

Well, we are talking about a group of about 20 different categories in the consumer electronics space. So that would include, you mentioned smartphones, computers. It also includes memory and flat screen television panels.

嗯，我们正在谈论消费电子产品领域约 20 个不同类别的产品。这其中包括你提到的智能手机、电脑，还包括内存和平面电视面板。

And the list goes on. A set of cases was on Friday by Customs and Border Protection. This is the U.S. agency that is in charge of implementing the Trump policy, which, you know, to be honest about this, it's been a little bit confusing, I think we can agree over the last couple of days.

这样的产品还有很多。周五，美国海关与边境保护局发起了一系列案件调查。这是美国负责执行特朗普相关政策的机构。说实话，我想我们都能认同，在过去几天里，这项政策有点让人摸不着头脑。

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It has changed from day to day, sometimes from hour to hour. We have seen exemptions tapped on. And there's also a whole host of people within the White House that are making statements about what the policy is.

这项政策每天都在变，有时甚至每小时都在变。我们看到一些豁免条款被陆续推出。而且白宫内部也有很多人在发表关于这项政策内容的声明。

Sometimes those statements contradict each other. But you're absolutely right that this applies to those retaliatory tariffs as best as we can tell. 20% tariff that has been imposed on goods imported from China.

有时这些声明相互矛盾。但就我们所知，你说得完全正确，这项政策适用于那些报复性关税。对从中国进口的商品征收 20%的关税。

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President Trump, I mean, he seemed pretty firm in his position against China in this trade war. So why do you think he's made this allowance? Yeah, I mean, I think this is, it's fair to call this a capitulation on the part of President Donald Trump. I think aspiration ran into reality here.

特朗普总统，他的立场在对抗中国的贸易战中似乎非常坚定。那么您认为他为什么会做出这样的让步呢？是的，我认为这可以公平地称之为唐纳德·特朗普总统方面的投降。我认为雄心遇到了现实。

The White House has been pretty clear that these tariffs are, at least in large part, aimed at onshoring production of various products here to the United States. The reality is that the manufacturing base of the United States just isn't there to support 100% of iPhones that Apple sells here and around the world. So that's what the White House, I think, was confronted with here.

白宫已经非常明确，这些关税在很大程度上是为了将各种产品的生产转移到美国国内。现实情况是，美国的制造业基础根本无法支持苹果公司在这里和全球销售的 100%的 iPhone。所以我认为，这就是白宫所面临的问题。

And they say that at the direction of the president, these companies are hustling to make this onshoring happen. They use that term hustling. But I think what they're trying to do is position this as really giving those companies time to put the parts in place to onshore production as best they can.

他们说，按照总统的指示，这些公司正在拼命地实现这种生产转移。他们使用了“拼命”这个词。但我认为他们试图做的是把这定位为真正给那些公司时间去尽可能地安排好生产转移的各个部分。

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Unfortunately, we're having a little bit of trouble with the line there. And we do apologize for that. But briefly, if you don't mind, Lily, do you think that the US making a concession like this will actually bring the prospect of a US-China trade deal any closer? Answer that.

很遗憾，我们在那根线上遇到了一点小麻烦。对此我们深表歉意。但是，如果你不介意的话，简要地说，莉莉，你认为美国做出这样的让步实际上会使美中贸易协议的前景更接近吗？回答这个问题。

But I can say this. There's been a lot of challenges made by President Trump out in the open aimed at China. The TikTok drama, I think, falls right into that category.

但我可以说这一点。特朗普总统在公开场合对中国提出了很多挑战。TikTok 事件，我认为，就属于这一类。

And where are we with that? We're here without no TikTok deal. TikTok's still operational, but it's actually operating while flouting the law of the United States right now. And there doesn't seem to be any deal in sight.

我们现在处于什么情况呢？我们在这里没有 TikTok 协议。TikTok 仍然在运营，但实际上它现在正在违反美国的法律。而且似乎看不到任何协议的迹象。

So this could be sort of an indefinite and ongoing process. And what reaction have we had to this move, Lily? You know, it's been interesting because tech executives in Silicon Valley have been remarkably quiet these last couple of days as there's been so much drama in the markets. And I think a lot of angst amongst consumers who are bracing themselves for potentially much higher prices for the products that they buy.

所以这可能是一个不确定的、持续的过程。莉莉，对于这一举措我们有什么反应呢？你知道，这很有趣，因为在过去的几天里，硅谷的科技高管们一直非常安静，因为市场上发生了这么多戏剧性的事情。我认为消费者中也有很多焦虑，他们正在为自己购买的产品可能面临更高的价格而做好准备。

But I think that they have exerted the breadth of their messaging by having a couple of other things that have come before this. So, for example, going to the Trump inauguration, funding his inaugural fund, in some cases, by a million dollars a pop, and also making various announcements. So in Apple's case, they made an announcement of a $500 billion investment in the US, talking about opening up a new facility in Texas.

但我认为他们通过在此之前做了一些其他事情来扩展了他们的宣传范围。例如，参加特朗普的就职典礼，资助他的就职基金，有时一次性捐款高达百万美元，并且还发布了各种声明。在苹果的情况下，他们宣布在美国投资 5000 亿美元，并讨论在德克萨斯州开设新的设施。

And I think a lot of that is going to go towards AI development. So you see them appeasing Donald Trump in these various ways when we knew this was coming. But no direct responses to this particular announcement.

我认为其中很大一部分将用于人工智能的发展。所以我们看到他们在这些方面讨好特朗普，尽管我们知道这种情况即将发生。但对于这个特定的声明，他们没有直接回应。

We have been in touch with Apple today, and they are not commenting thus far. Lily Jamali there in San Francisco. Thanks a lot.

我们今天已经联系了苹果公司，到目前为止他们还没有发表评论。旧金山的莉莉·贾马利，非常感谢。

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The UK government is taking one of the country's most crucial steel works into state hands amid fears that its Chinese owners were about to close it down. The British steel plant in the historic steel town of Scunthorpe employs nearly 3,000 workers and is the only mill left in the UK that can make steel from scratch rather than recycling scrap. The government recalled MPs from their Easter break for a rare Saturday sitting, and our political editor Chris Mason has more.

由于担心英国一家至关重要的钢铁厂的中国所有者即将关闭该厂，英国政府将其收归国有。位于历史悠久的钢铁城镇斯肯索普的这家英国钢铁厂雇佣了近 3000 名工人，并且是英国唯一一家能够从零开始炼钢而非回收废钢的工厂。政府召回正在复活节休假的议员们，举行了一场罕见的周六议会会议，我们的政治编辑克里斯·梅森将带来更多报道。

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Different voices, different generations. The demand the same from Scunthorpe today. The steel works on the brink, the government responding at the last minute to save it.

不同的声音，不同的世代。如今斯肯索普的诉求却是相同的。钢铁厂岌岌可危，政府在最后一刻做出回应以拯救它。

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It's the backbone of Scunthorpe. I think that you would be hard pushed to find anybody within the local area that doesn't have some tenuous link, way, shape or form with the steel works. The sense of relief felt by me and all the other steel workers, especially at the blast furnaces last night was immense.

它是斯肯索普的支柱。我认为在当地很难找到一个与这家钢铁厂没有任何微妙联系的人。昨晚，我和其他所有钢铁工人，尤其是高炉车间的工人们，都感到如释重负。

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It would absolutely devastate the community and it's not just the steel works, it's surrounding companies as well. MPs dash back to Westminster via a plane, a cup of tea or a social media video. I'm going back into that place over there, Parliament.

这绝对会让整个社区遭受重创，而且受影响的不仅仅是钢铁厂，周边的企业也会受到波及。议员们乘坐飞机、喝着茶或者通过社交媒体视频赶回威斯敏斯特。我要回到那边那个地方——议会大厦了。

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Rucksack, plastic bag and wheelie case in tow, the green benches beckon to hear the argument for immediate action. Mr Speaker, we meet under exceptional circumstances to take exceptional action in what are exceptional times. The business secretary said British Steel's Chinese owners sustaining huge losses would have let the blast furnaces run out of raw material and so shut down.

背包、塑料袋和拉杆箱随身携带，绿色长椅召唤着人们前来聆听要求立即采取行动的论证。议长先生，我们在特殊情况下召开会议，在特殊时期采取特殊行动。商业大臣表示，英国钢铁的中国所有者持续巨额亏损，将导致高炉耗尽原材料而停产。

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In this situation, with the clock being run down, doing nothing was not an option. We could not, will not and never will stand idly by while heat seeps from the UK's remaining blast furnaces without any planning, any due process or any respect for the consequences. He had a pop too at his predecessor as business secretary, the now Conservative leader, Kemi Badenoch, claiming she'd not done enough to avoid this.

在这种情况下，随着时间一分一秒流逝，无所作为并非选择。我们不会、也不能、更永远不会在英国仅存高炉的热度悄然流失时袖手旁观——毫无规划、未经正当程序、不顾后果。他还对前任商业大臣、现任保守党领袖凯米·巴德诺赫有所指责，声称她未采取足够措施避免这一局面。

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The new government inherited no such deal. Read her lips, not true, she claims. The Conservatives added.

新政府并未继承任何此类协议。看她的唇语就知道——"不属实"，她如此宣称。保守党补充道。

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What disrespect to this house for the government to come along today to recall Parliament after nine months in which they failed to land a deal and ask us for a blank cheque. This is no way to run a corner shop, let alone the country. The overwhelming sentiment today was a desire to protect the Scunthorpe plans, but with scrutiny attached.

政府今天在九个月未能达成协议并要求我们提供空白支票后前来召回议会，这是对本议院的何等不尊重。这绝不是经营街角小店的方式，更不用说管理一个国家了。今天压倒性的情绪是希望保护斯肯索普计划，但要附带审查。

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We must work together to rescue our steel sector and the tens of thousands of jobs that rely on it directly and indirectly. But under the terms of this bill, the Secretary of State is giving himself huge and unconstrained powers which could set a very dangerous precedent. Plenty wanted to know how long this takeover could last.

我们必须共同努力拯救我们的钢铁部门以及直接和间接依赖它的数万个工作岗位。但根据这项法案的条款，国务大臣正在赋予自己巨大且不受约束的权力，这可能会开创一个非常危险的先例。很多人想知道这次收购可能会持续多久。

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The government says it'll keep Parliament informed. It's not often Reform UK and the Greens agree, but they did today. The Green Party believes that public ownership is the best solution in this case because only public ownership would give us the control we really need.

政府表示将随时向议会通报情况。改革英国和绿党通常不会意见一致，但他们今天做到了。绿党认为，在这种情况下，公有制是最佳解决方案，因为只有公有制才能给我们真正需要的控制权。

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Surely the right thing to do is to seize this great opportunity now, this weekend, and nationalise British Steel. This afternoon, nearly 200 miles north of Westminster, the Prime Minister visited Scunthorpe, reassurance his aim. The future of this plant, this industry making news today, and certain to again in the coming weeks and months.

当然，现在就抓住这个大好机会，在这个周末，将英国钢铁国有化是正确的选择。今天下午，距离威斯敏斯特 nearly 200 英里远的斯肯索普，首相进行了访问，以实现他的目标。这家工厂的未来，这个今天成为新闻的行业，肯定会在未来几周和几个月内再次成为热点。

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Chris Mason, BBC News. Israel's defence minister, Israel Katz, says that its military will soon vigorously expand its offensive throughout Gaza. Mr Katz says that the Israel Defence Forces have completed a takeover of a so-called security zone in the southern part of the Gaza Strip, cutting off the cities of Rafa and Khan Younis from each other.

Chris Mason，BBC 新闻。以色列国防部长伊色列·卡茨表示，以色列军队将很快在加沙地带全面加强攻势。卡茨先生说，以色列国防军已经完成了对所谓的南部安全区的接管，切断了拉法市和罕尤尼斯市之间的联系。

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Israel's military issued evacuation orders for Khan Younis and its surrounding areas, and the IDF says that it will carry out strikes in response to the launch of projectiles from Gaza, which Hamas has claimed responsibility for. Israel resumed its offensive against Hamas in Gaza in mid-March, following the collapse of a two-month ceasefire. In Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry reports that more than 1,500 people have been killed in raids by Israel since it restarted its offensive in mid-March, following the collapse of that truce.

以色列军方发布了汗尤尼斯及其周边地区的撤离命令，以色列国防军表示，将对加沙发射的 projectile 进行打击，哈马斯已对此负责。以色列在三月中旬，在两个月停火协议破裂后，恢复了对加沙的哈马斯的进攻。在加沙的哈马斯运营的卫生部报告称，自三月中旬停火破裂后重新开始进攻以来，已有 1500 多人在以色列的袭击中丧生。

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Let's turn now to some other important news around the world. The United Nations says more than 100 people are feared to have been killed in attacks by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces in western Sudan's Darfur region. The UN says that the RSF launched a ground and air offensive on the Zamzam refugee camp and the nearby city of al-Fasha on Friday.

现在让我们转向世界各地的其他重要新闻。联合国表示，在苏丹西部达尔富尔地区，恐有 100 多人在准军事快速支援部队的袭击中丧生。联合国表示，快速支援部队周五对 Zamzam 难民营和附近的法沙市发动了地面和空中进攻。

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The Charity Relief International has confirmed nine of its staff were killed in the camp. The RSF has been trying to capture al-Fasha from the army. Both sides have been accused of atrocities since Sudan's civil war began two years ago.

国际慈善救济组织已确认其 9 名工作人员在该营地遇害。快速支援部队一直在试图从军队手中夺取法沙。自苏丹内战两年前开始以来，双方都被指控犯有暴行。

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Thousands of supporters of Serbia's president, Alexander Vucic, have held a rally in the capital Belgrade to try and counter months of protests against him. There have been regular anti-government demonstrations since November, when the deadly collapse of a railway station canopy triggered widespread anger. Mr Vucic says that the protesters are threatening national unity.

塞尔维亚总统亚历山大·武契奇的支持者们在首都贝尔格莱德举行集会，试图对抗持续数月的反政府抗议活动。自 11 月一起致命火车站雨棚坍塌事件引发众怒以来，当地已爆发多轮反政府示威。武契奇称抗议者正在威胁国家团结。

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Three prison officers have been attacked by Hashim Obeidi, the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber. The officers sustained life-threatening injuries, including burns and stab wounds, in the attack at Franklin Prison in County Durham. BBC's Daniel De Simone has more.

曼彻斯特体育馆爆炸案主犯之弟哈希姆·奥贝迪在达勒姆郡富兰克林监狱袭击三名狱警，造成其生命垂危的烧伤与刺伤。BBC 记者丹尼尔·德西蒙带来详细报道。

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Hashim Obeidi is serving life in prison for the Manchester Arena bombing, which he was responsible for with his brother, the suicide bomber Salman Obeidi. He's been held in HMP Franklin, but he's been held within a prison, which is a separation centre used to house the country's most dangerous terrorist prisoners. But despite that, today he was able to carry out an attack on three prison officers that involved him throwing hot oil at them and then producing homemade weapons, which he used to stab them.

哈希姆·奥贝迪因与兄弟自杀式袭击者萨尔曼·奥贝迪共同制造曼彻斯特体育馆爆炸案被判终身监禁，现关押于专门关押高危恐怖分子罪犯的隔离监狱 HMP 富兰克林。然而今日他仍向三名狱警发动袭击，先是泼洒热油，继而使用自制武器实施捅刺。

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They were taken to hospital. A woman has since been discharged, but two men remain in hospital in a critical condition. The Prison Officers Association is furious.

他们被送往了医院。一名女子已经出院，但两名男子仍在医院，情况危急。监狱官员协会非常愤怒。

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They're saying their members are not safe. Someone like Obeidi should not have access to this kind of thing. The government says prison office staff should never have to face this kind of thing.

他们说他们的成员不安全。像奥贝迪这样的人不应该接触这种东西。政府表示，监狱办公室工作人员绝不应该面临这种情况。

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But tonight there will be calls for an inquiry into what's happened. There is also a criminal investigation. I understand that tonight that is going to be taken over by the counterterrorism, counterterrorism policing network.

但今晚将呼吁对所发生的事情进行调查。也有刑事调查。我了解到今晚这将由反恐、反恐警务网络接管。

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The daughter of an elderly British couple who've been detained by the Taliban for 10 weeks has told the BBC that their health is rapidly declining. Peter Reynolds, who turns 80 this month, and his 75-year-old wife Barbie, have been running school training programmes in Afghanistan for some 18 years. Freya Chappell reports.

一对被塔利班扣押了 10 周的英国老年夫妇的女儿告诉 BBC，他们的健康状况正在迅速恶化。本月将满 80 岁的彼得·雷诺兹和他 75 岁的妻子芭比在阿富汗已经开展了大约 18 年的学校培训项目。弗雷娅·查佩尔报道。

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Peter and Barbie Reynolds, detained in a maximum security prison since the start of February. In the country, they've called home for almost two decades. They've had 29 investigative interviews, all of which have yielded no credible charges against them.

自 2 月初以来一直被关押在最高安全级别的监狱中的彼得和芭比·雷诺兹。在这个他们称之为家近二十年的国家，他们已经接受了 29 次调查性采访，但都没有对他们提出可信的指控。

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They honestly don't know why they're there. They're told that there will be a verdict given, and it isn't. For six weeks, the family heard next to nothing.

他们真的不知道自己为什么在那里。他们被告知将给出裁决，但并没有。六周来，这个家庭几乎没有听到任何消息。

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Peter, in desperate need of vital medication to keep him alive. We were deeply concerned, particularly because he had symptoms of a looming stroke. But thankfully, he's received his medication now.

彼得急需维持他生命的重要药物。我们深感担忧，特别是因为他有即将中风的症状。但幸运的是，他现在已经收到了药物。

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We've recently heard that mum is anemic and very weak and frail. 79-year-old Peter and 75-year-old Barbie were arrested while returning home to the province, along with their American friend Faye Hall and a male Afghan translator. Faye Hall has since been released.

我们最近听说妈妈贫血，非常虚弱和虚弱。79 岁的彼得和 75 岁的芭比在返回该省的家中时被捕，连同他们的美国朋友费伊·霍尔和一名男性阿富汗翻译。费伊·霍尔此后已被释放。

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Mum's told us that she's in a cell with several other women. She's told us about mice and cockroaches. Dad will describe his cell or cage as the VIP suite.

妈妈告诉我们她和其他几个女人关在一个牢房里。她告诉我们有老鼠和蟑螂。爸爸会把他的牢房或笼子描述为贵宾套房。

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But he's been made to sit on the floor for hours, while being chained to rapists and murderers, which is absolutely heart-wrenching. This week, an appeal to the White House. As a British by birth, American by choice, I'm standing here asking and appealing to you to help get my parents out of that jail.

但他被迫在地板上坐了几个小时，同时被链在强奸犯和杀人犯旁边，这绝对令人痛心。本周，向白宫提出上诉。作为一名英国出生、美国选择的人，我站在这里请求并呼吁你们帮助把我的父母从那个监狱里弄出来。

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The UK Foreign Office told the BBC they are supporting the family. Both the White House and the Taliban have not responded. Dad turns 80 this month, and we have a big family reunion planned with all 33 of us.

英国外交部告诉 BBC 他们正在支持这个家庭。白宫和塔利班都没有回应。爸爸这个月 80 岁了，我们计划举行一个有我们 33 人的大家庭团聚。

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Dreams of happy times to come. But for now, the reality is far less certain. Freya Chappell, BBC News.

对未来幸福时光的梦想。但现在，现实远未确定。弗雷娅·查佩尔，BBC 新闻。

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Polls have closed in Gabon's presidential election. It's the first since a military takeover some two years ago ousted the Bongo family, who were in power for more than half a century. According to the Interior Ministry, a turnout was 87%.

加蓬总统选举的投票已结束。这是大约两年前一场军事政变推翻执政超过半个世纪的邦戈家族后的首次选举。据内政部称，投票率为 87%。

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The general who led the coup, Brice Olugi Ndiema, is the favourite to win. He's a former aide of the Bongo family, and his nearest rival is the deposed former prime minister. BBC Africa's Paul Nijia has the latest.

领导政变的将军布里斯·奥卢吉·恩迪亚梅是最有希望获胜的人。他是邦戈家族的前助手，他最接近的竞争对手是被推翻的前总理。英国广播公司非洲部的保罗·尼吉亚有最新消息。

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Polls have closed here in Gabon, and in polling stations like the one behind me, vote counting is well underway. Election officials are sifting through the different ballots to separate the rejected ones from those that have been accepted. And as they wave the ballot of the person who has won that particular tally, the supporters of that candidate chant their name along.

加蓬这里的投票已经结束，在像我身后这样的投票站，计票工作正在顺利进行。选举官员正在筛选不同的选票，将被拒绝的选票与已被接受的选票分开。当他们挥动赢得该特定计票的人的选票时，该候选人的支持者齐声高呼他的名字。

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Largely, election officials say the votes today have been successfully peaceful, and transitional president Brice Cloutier Olugi Ndiema said that they were transparent, praising the conduct of the polls. However, critics suggest that he has been given an unfair advantage in the polls, excluding some opposition heavyweights from challenging him in these elections. Main challenger in the election, Alain-Claude Bilibinze, has said that there are potentials for irregularities, citing mishandling of voter cards.

选举官员普遍表示，今日的投票过程基本和平顺利，过渡总统布里斯·克鲁蒂埃·奥卢吉·恩迪耶马称选举透明，并对投票秩序表示赞赏。然而，批评人士指出，他在选举中获得了不公平的优势，部分反对派重量级人物被排除在竞选之外。主要竞选对手阿兰-克劳德·比利宾泽提出存在违规行为的可能性，并列举了选民证处理不当的情况。

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After the vote counting exercise, preliminary results are expected to stream in, and the Gabonese people will know their next leader. Before we go, it's a feat that has been achieved by fewer than 100 people, and today a terrier called Betty became the first dog to complete what is known as the full house, climbing more than 1,000 of the highest peaks in the British Isles. Betty and her owner Shona were welcomed by fellow walkers at the top of a hill near Bremer in the Scottish Highlands.

计票工作结束后，初步结果将陆续公布，加蓬人民即将知晓他们的下一任领导人。在结束之前，我们要分享一项仅有不到 100 人完成的壮举——今日，一只名为贝蒂的小猎犬成为首只完成“全满贯”的狗狗，成功登顶不列颠群岛 1000 多座最高山峰。贝蒂与主人肖娜在苏格兰高地布雷默附近的山顶受到了同行徒步者的热烈欢迎。

It was the final summit on the list, which has taken them four years and around 5,500 miles to complete. With regards to Donald Trump exempting smartphones and computers from his new tariffs on China, we'll have more for you at the top of the hour on that and the rest of the day's news. I'm Helen Humphrey in Washington DC.

那是列表上的最后一次峰会，他们用了四年时间和大约 5500 英里来完成。关于唐纳德·特朗普将他对中国的新关税中智能手机和电脑豁免的事，我们将在本小时的开始为您带来更多消息，以及当天剩余的新闻。我是 Helen Humphrey，在华盛顿特区。

Thanks for your company. I will see you very soon.

感谢你的陪伴。很快会再见的。